Page One Podcast

Ep. 33: Matt Sedillo: City on the Second Floor

Episode Summary

In Episode 33, we interview Matt Sedillo, hailed as the best political poet in America. Sedillo shares his unique approach to poetry writing, and gives insights into his personal journey and the rich storytelling traditions that have influenced his work. He also shares a sneak peek into his next project 'Elon Musk Must Be Stopped' and reads from his works 'City on the Second Floor' and 'Mowing Leaves of Grass', demonstrating first hand the three-act structure that is central to his writing style and unique to poets who rarely discuss deliberate design. Hearing Matt perform his poetry is one of the many delights in this episode about a kid who dreamed of becoming President but instead becomes a poet who is unfettered in speaking his truth about the current political landscape. Enjoy this genius at work. His brilliance is breathtaking. He reads from his poem PILGRIM and gave us permission to post it in the episode notes. Pilgrim by Matt Sedillo See, some were born to summer homes And palatial groves Where pain was only to ever unfold From the pages of Secret Gardens Where the Red Fern Grows But not I See, I come from the stock Of starry-eyed astronauts Who greet the night sky With big dreams and wide eyes Always Running Down the Devil’s Highway Through Occupied America On the way back to The House on Mango Street And all those other books You didn’t want us to read Raised on handball Off the back wall Of a panaderia Born East the river Post Mendez vs Westminster One generation removed From the redlines And diplomas signed That those dreams In that skin Need not apply See, I come from struggle And if my story offends you That is only ‘cause you made the mistake of seeking your reflection In my self-portrait See, this Well this may not be about you Because while some were born To the common core Whose reflected faces Graced the pages Of doctrines to discover And ages to be explored Where old world hardships Crashed against new shores New England New Hampshire New Jersey New York For others pushed off Turtle Island Aztlan Do not call this brown skin Immigrant Child of the sun Son of the conquest Mexicano blood Running through the veins Of the eastside of Los Angeles Do not tell him In what native tongue His song would best be sung Do not tell me Who I am ‘Cause I was raised just like you Miseducated in some of those Very same schools Off lessons and legends Of honest injuns and Christian pilgrims And a nation of immigrants All united in freedom That is until they pulled aside My white friend Pointed directly at me And said Scott I judge you by the company you keep And you spend your time with this And that’s the same old story since 1846 The adventures of Uncle Sam The stick-up man Hey wetback Show me your papers Now give me your labor The Melting Pot Was never meant for the hands That clean it The American dream Has always come at the expense Of those who tucked it in And you don’t know that ‘Cause you don’t teach it Could write you a book But you won’t read it So you know what This is about you And 1492 And the Treaty of Guadalupe California Missions And Arizona schools And these racists That try to erase us As we raise their kids In cities that bear our names But you’re going to learn Something today ‘Cause from Ferdinand To minuteman From Arpaio To Alamo From Popol Vuh To Yo Soy Joaquin To the Indian that still lives in me From Mexico 68 To the missing 43 They tried to bury us They didn’t know we were seeds From Cananea mine To Delano strike From the Plan De Ayala Emiliano Zapata Joaquin Murrieta Las Adelitas Brown Berets And Zapatistas From Richard Nixon To the Third Napoleon From Peckinpah To Houston From Lone Star Republic To Christopher Columbus All the way down To Donald f—g Trump We didn’t cross the borders The borders crossed us Who you calling immigrant Pilgrim?

Episode Notes

Page One, produced and hosted by author Holly Lynn Payne, celebrates the craft that goes into writing the first sentence, first paragraph and first page of your favorite books. The first page is often the most rewritten page of any book because it has to work so hard to do so much—hook the reader. We interview master storytellers on the struggles and stories behind the first page of their books.

About the guest author:

MATT SEDILLO, the first poet on the Page One Podcast, is being hailed by historians and journalists as the "best political poet in America." He has written two collections of poetry, CITY ON THE SECOND FLOOR and MOWING LEAVES OF GRASS, which are currently being taught in several California colleges. Matt Sedillo has also been described as "the poet laureate of the struggle" by academics, poets, and journalists. He has appeared on CSPAN and has been featured in the Los Angeles Times and other publications, in addition to traveling the world to speak at major conferences, forums, and universities including Cambridge. His Three Act Poem structure has been taught at UCLA and Occidental College. Sedillo is currently the Literary Director of the Mexican Cultural Institute of Los Angeles, where he leads weekly writing workshops. He is currently at work on a book-length poem “Elon Musk Must Be Stopped.” He lives in Los Angeles.

He has given us permission to share his poem “PILGRIM”

Pilgrim by Matt Sedillo

See, some were born to summer homes

And palatial groves

Where pain was only to ever unfold

From the pages of Secret Gardens

Where the Red Fern Grows

But not I

See, I come from the stock

Of starry-eyed astronauts

Who greet the night sky

With big dreams and wide eyes

Always Running

Down the Devil’s Highway

Through Occupied America

On the way back to

The House on Mango Street

And all those other books

You didn’t want us to read

Raised on handball

Off the back wall

Of a panaderia

Born

East the river

Post Mendez vs Westminster

One generation removed

From the redlines

And diplomas signed

That those dreams

In that skin

Need not apply

See, I come from struggle

And if my story offends you

That is only ‘cause you made the mistake of seeking your reflection

In my self-portrait

See, this

Well this may not be about you

Because while some were born

To the common core

Whose reflected faces

Graced the pages

Of doctrines to discover

 And ages to be explored

 Where old world hardships

 Crashed against new shores

 New England

New Hampshire

New Jersey

New York

For others pushed off

Turtle Island

Aztlan

Do not call this brown skin

Immigrant

Child of the sun

Son of the conquest

Mexicano blood

Running through the veins

Of the eastside of Los Angeles

Do not tell him

In what native tongue

His song would best be sung

Do not tell me

Who I am

‘Cause I was raised just like you

Miseducated in some of those

Very same schools

Off lessons and legends

Of honest injuns and Christian pilgrims

And a nation of immigrants

All united in freedom

That is until they pulled aside

My white friend

Pointed directly at me

And said Scott

I judge you by the company you keep

And you spend your time with this

And that’s the same old story since 1846

The adventures of Uncle Sam

The stick-up man

Hey wetback

Show me your papers

Now give me your labor

The Melting Pot

Was never meant for the hands

That clean it

The American dream

Has always come at the expense

Of those who tucked it in

And you don’t know that

 ‘Cause you don’t teach it

Could write you a book

But you won’t read it

So you know what

This is about you

And 1492

And the Treaty of Guadalupe

California Missions

And Arizona schools

And these racists

That try to erase us

As we raise their kids

In cities that bear our names

But you’re going to learn

Something today

‘Cause from Ferdinand

To minuteman

From Arpaio

To Alamo

From Popol Vuh

To Yo Soy Joaquin

To the Indian that still lives in me

From Mexico 68

To the missing 43

They tried to bury us

They didn’t know we were seeds

From Cananea mine

To Delano strike 

From the Plan De Ayala

Emiliano Zapata

Joaquin Murrieta

Las Adelitas

Brown Berets

And Zapatistas

From Richard Nixon

To the Third Napoleon

From Peckinpah

To Houston

From Lone Star Republic

To Christopher Columbus

All the way down

To Donald f—g Trump

We didn’t cross the borders

The borders crossed us

Who you calling immigrant

Pilgrim?
 

About the host:

Holly Lynn Payne is an award-winning novelist and writing coach, and the former CEO and founder of Booxby, a startup built to help authors succeed. She is an internationally published author of four historical fiction novels. Her debut, The Virgin's Knot, was a Barnes & Noble Discover Great New Writers book. She recently finished her first YA crossover novel inspired by her nephew with Down syndrome. She lives in Marin County with her daughter and enjoys mountain biking, surfing and hiking with her dog. To learn more about her books and private writing coaching services, please visit hollylynnpayne.com or find her at Instagram and Twitter @hollylynnpayne.

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